This week we got a lucky break and got to visit a talented artist who is in the middle of developing a new exhibition. Who you ask? Why it's Jacob Noel of course! We have a great talk about what it's like to try to quit being an artist (and fail), about process methods and about needing to constantly defend ones work. Folks, it's a good one. We will be (sort of) of closed for the holidays, so the next conversation will be on Wednesday the 8th of January. But stay tuned for our holidays listening recommendations and survival guide!